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  Doomsday e-mail has my co-worker paranoid

  by fade_away in

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  i cannot stand the doomsday people trying to spread fear amongst everyone.

  i've had enough doom and gloom from the 25 years of my jw service...i just want to be happy and positive.

  but my co-worker is very pessimistic, anti-social and an extreme negative energy all around.

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  I Want to Believe

  Here's the thing: Israel and Pakistan or Iran could all wipe each other off the face of the earth and it still wouldn't constitute a "doomsday." That letter says it's the most military build up he's seen in 20 years; well, what about the years before that? Was there a doomsday then because all the weapons build-up? Some people just need to relax. Panicked doomsayers will cause more trouble than the actual (eventual) catastrophe.
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  What does your avatar/screen name mean?

  by Christ Alone in

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  some avatars and screen names are pretty self explanatory, but some...i can't figure out.

  i just wanted to know why you chose your particular screen name and/or avatar.

  mine is easy enough.

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  I Want to Believe

  It means I want to believe in something, now that I've lost my faith in everything I once knew, and now I'm out looking for the real truth. Like my avatar, Fox Mulder, I want to believe that "The Truth is Out There," somewhere. And much like on "The X-Files" I'm fighting a vast conspiracy that seeks to keep the truth (or TTATT) hidden from the people.
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  Powerful questions to DEBUNK the Universal Sovreignty issue

  by Black Man in

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  ok, we've had some great posts about the universal sovreignty issue over the years.

  i'd like to have this post be about powerful common-sense questions that get right to the core of unraveling it for the nonsense it is.

  when i talk to jw relatives, i'm sticking with the strategy of just posing questions instead of arguing with them.

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  I Want to Believe

  How about the fact that Israel, as God's chosen nation, was supposed to represent the superiority of His rule, yet was always bested in every way by some other nation? It's hard to even secularly verify its existence. Anyone looking at human history to determine who had the best civilization, with social progress, laws, invention, and just general betterment of the human race (and thus the best gods) would say Rome, Greece, Egypt, Babylon, or even many of our modern nations. If God's rule is so great, shouldn't His visible people have made a better showing?
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  Full time ministry Joy--or Lack Thereof

  by WTWizard in

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  i can remember all the while i was in the cancer that they would trump up the value of pious-sneering.

  one of those was the "joy" of serving jehovah full time.

  they would always have these fantastic stories about how they had obstacles that they foolhardily disregarded, or that they got all these people into the cancer.. this is full of rubbish.

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  I Want to Believe

  It does seem like Recovery had a good point though; Jeremiah and Ezekiel were royally screwed over and would have been better off never listening to Jehovah. They never got any blessings. Those who worship Jehovah always get the short end of the stick.
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  HOW TO IDENTIFY THE TRUE RELIGION

  by Fifth Column in

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  jesus said that the true religion would be evident in the lives of the people who practice it.

  by their fruits you will recognize them, he said.

  every good tree produces fine fruit.

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  I Want to Believe

  Um, you do realize this is an EX-JW site, right? We've all this heard before, some of us all our lives before we extracted our minds from this nonsense. There are plenty of good reasons we don't believe anymore, so simply pasting from old Watchtower articles isn't anything we haven't heard before, and already considered at some point during our exit. Since you obviously can't think for yourself and won't listen to counter-arguments, why don't you at least come up with something original to sermonize on (oh wait, I forgot, you can't think for yourself).
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  Getting a glimpse from a distance....

  by NeverKnew in

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  i'm lurk-listening to a meeting through a call-in phone number.... i am so annoyed that i missed the beginning of it!.

  when i patched in, i heard a voice... guess it was a person called an elder... who was celebrating a court case from ... did he say 1946????

  forty six????.

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  I Want to Believe

  No, they wouldn't change anything for you; they can't go off script (thus the read, question, parrot format). Your being there would lift everyone's spirits, however, and you would be mobbed by smiles and handshakes, all hoping to briing you into the fold--in a good congregation, anyway. In some cases, you might just get a few suspicious glances and a greeting from an elder or servant to let you know that they're watching you, while the rest shuffle into their cliques or about their normal, dreary routine.
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  HILARIOUS Game: Who Said It, Dr. Doom or Yahweh?

  by DarioKehl in

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  special thanks to the guys at the ask an atheist podcast for inventing this!

  below is a list of quotes borrowed from this link:http://lotsoftinyrobots.blogspot.com/2012/07/yahweh-or-dr-doom.htmlyou have to guess if they're from the evil dr. doom (of the fantastic 4 comics) or yahweh, god of the ot.

  since both are fond of speaking in third person, their names have been replaced with "steve".

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  I Want to Believe

  I only missed 4, but that was pretty tough.
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  changes in NWT

  by wallsofjericho in

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  hey all,.

  i saw a discussion on yahoo answers about changes in the nwt.

  i watchtower apologist posted a long list of commendations made regarding the nwt.. i thought we could have some fun picking this apart.. one in particular was a comment made by rolf furuli.

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  I Want to Believe

  There was a whole thread here on Jason BeDuhn.... and he does like the NWT and KIT.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/10361/1/Prof-Jason-BeDuhn-letter-on-the-NWT-KIT-part-1
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  does the watchtower still believe this?

  by lastchance in

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  questions from readers ?

  some animals have characteristics that seem especially suited to killing, such as lions and poisonous snakes.

  how can this be, if they were all vegetarians at one time?l.

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  I Want to Believe

  I never bought into the whole vegan animal line of thinking, either pre-flood or even in Paradise, and would often get into arguments with others over it. The clincher was always sealife: there obviously isn't enough seaweed and kelp for all the ocean life so they HAVE to eat each other. At that point, they'd either concede or go into ever more ridiculous thinking ("well, fish don't count" "Why not?" "Because people can't see them kill each other so it wouldn't disrupt Mankind's peace.")
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  I called Bethel about shunning family, unexpected response.....

  by EndofMysteries in

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  I Want to Believe

  Here is the definition of "conscience matter" to a JW: If you have a strong, good conscience you will see shunning/blood/ect. as a concrete rule and, in fact, should even take it a few steps further, if you're really rightous that is. You CAN go against the WT recommendations but that means you're conscience is weak, and you're weak, and God is now sad (and expect some "strengthening" from the brothers).

  Saying something is a conscience matter is exactly the same as the emotional blackmail standard "if you really loved me you would."